Flash_19's Maps: More New Stuff

[Flash_19]

Welcome to my map thread! Feel free to share any feedback you have.

Newest Maps and Recently Revised​

Eltania:
Requires 1x AoA, 1x BftW (BB1), 1x TJ (TGaLE)

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I should also mention that pieces from FoA were used to represent the wall pieces in AoA. Hopefully it is intuitive where things go (pillars adjacent to each other should be connected, etc.) Battlements were used to represent the larger wall piece connecting the two pillars.

Embattled Dungeon:
Requires 2x BftU, 1x FoA
Redux of Embattled Fen by GameBear

Haukeland Marsh:
Requires 1x RotV, 1x RttFF, 1x TJ

Incursion:
Requires 1x SotM, 1x FoA,1x TJ
Redux of Invasion by LongHeroscaper

Invested:
Requires 1x AoA, 1x BftW (BB1), 1x TJ (TGaLE)

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I should also mention that pieces from FoA were used to represent the wall pieces in AoA. Hopefully it is intuitive where things go (pillars adjacent to each other should be connected, etc.) Battlements were used to represent the larger wall piece connecting the two pillars.

Mist and Shadow:
Requires 2x BftU, 1x TT

Withering Pines:
Requires 1x RotV, 1x VW, 1x RttFF

***** Best Maps *****​

Aeon - Inducted into Wargrounds of Scape
Requires 1x RotV, 1x RttFF

Alta
Requires 2x M:TCB, 1x BftU, 1x RttFF

Ascension:
Requires 1x RotV, 1x TT

Battlefield 23 - Inducted into Wargrounds of Scape and the ARV
Requires 1 RotV, 1 FoA, 1 TJ

Backstory

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Crack.

Agent Derek West turned and leveled his rifle towards the subtle sound of a branch breaking. The noise had apparently come from the clump of brush that now lay directly in front of him. With the rifle sights focused on the thick brush, he methodically picked his way across sand and rock towards the source of the noise, eyes and ears straining in the darkness for anything that seemed amiss.

There was nothing there.

A small fire nearby crackled and sputtered as bits of ash rose into the sky. Surrounding the fire were the other members of strike team Omega, a team consisting of 8 squads of Microcorp Agents en route to Ticalla. The team had been tasked with the delivery of as many extra weapons and supplies as they could efficiently carry for Vydar’s troops that were stationed there.

“Omega 9, you’ve moved from your post. Check in. Over.” The voice of his squad leader, Special Agent Jacobs, sounded in West’s earpiece.

“Roger, Omega 1. I thought I heard something. Request permission to make rounds over the perimeter. Over.”

“Permission granted. Check in upon completion. Over and out.”

West cautiously ventured out further from the camp into the darkness of the night. It was cool and clear that evening, and the dim light from the stars was enough to get a clear view of the land around. Thick underbrush dotted the grassy fields around the camp, which had been set up in between the crumbling stone walls of an outpost long abandoned. West had been along this pathway into Ticalla before. The team was nearing the edge of the jungle, and the brush was starting to grow denser. This would be the last breath of cool air before the warm, stiff air of Ticalla encircled them.

A shadow moved in the darkness.

West immediately swung his rifle towards the perceived direction of the shadow, his finger hovering over the trigger. Nothing. He waited, peering down the sights of the rifle, while the pounding of his own heartbeat sounded in his ears. Slowly, he began to inch backwards towards a large bush behind him, trying not to make a sound, but certain whatever the shadow was could hear the thumping of his heart.

He jumped as the sound of shouting and gunfire filled the air. Shots were being fired behind him at the camp. He looked back, trying to see through branches and leaves but he couldn’t make out what was happening. Mind racing, he glanced back towards where the shadow in the dark had been. There, a few feet above the ground, he could make out a pair of red eyes peering back at him. Off in the distance, a chorus of howls filled the night air – standing out above the flurry of noise from the camp. Suppressing the panic growing inside him, he breathed out slightly and squeezed the trigger, sights focused between the glowing eyes. The three round burst found its mark, and the red eyes sank to the ground while slowly flickering out.

A shrill howl came from his left, and West turned in time to see three large Deathstalkers barreling across the field towards him. Light glinted off bits of metal and wind blew through scraggly fur as the creatures raced towards him. Compared to them, he seemed to move in slow motion. Driven by sheer instinct, West raised his rifle, and sent three rounds into the shoulder of the leading wolf. It yelped and dropped to the ground with a crash of grinding metal.

The other two were mere seconds away. Agent West desperately pulled the trigger again and again, but they kept coming. After what seemed like ages, another of the creatures finally skidded to a halt on the ground as the final Deathstalker lunged towards him, teeth bared and red eyes flashing. He brought his rifle up, clutching it in both hands. He tried to swipe at the beast’s head, but felt it hit him as all went black.

* * *

His head was throbbing. It felt as if it had split open. Lifting a hand to his forehead, West tried to gently feel for the wound, but dried blood crusting his forehead prevented him from knowing how large the wound was.

He was lying face up on the ground. The brightness of the sun overhead somehow blinding him, even with his eyes closed. Suddenly, memories of the attacking Deathstalkers returned, and he bolted upright. A terrible mistake. Sharp pain shot through his head, and he gritted his teeth while slowly opening up his eyes.

It was a clear sunny day, and a light breeze whispered through the blades of grass. But the dead bodies of Deathstalkers sprawled across the ground plagued the serene sight. He needed to get moving. There didn’t seem to be any pain in his legs, so he tried to stand up. Everything seemed to be working okay, and as long as he moved slowly the pain in his head felt manageable. After bending down to pick up his rifle, he made his way carefully towards the camp.

The ground was littered with the corpses of dead Deathstalkers. And amid the fur and metal…

Deep breaths, West. Deep breaths.

He choked out a sob while trying to hold his emotions in check. Slowly and painstakingly, he moved between the bodies of his twenty-three teammates, counting each one and checking to see if any of them had made it. After wandering towards the outskirts of the camp, he counted the last one. His squad leader, Special Agent Jacobs, lay face up - eyes staring sightlessly into the sky. As he reached down to check for a pulse, he noticed two medium sized stones clutched in his hands. The stones had strange markings on them, and they felt unnaturally warm to his touch. It almost seemed as if they were… alive. Some sort of power or life surged through them. What on Valhalla? When he tried to pick them up, he was shocked at their incredible weight. He could barely manage to carry them. What are these, why did Jacobs have them, and how was he able to carry them?

The seeming problem gave him something to focus on instead of his grief. Agent West had to do something with those stones - he could sense that they were valuable. But what? He wouldn’t be able to carry them both back. He looked around for anything that might give some indication of what to do. A large scrap of metal that had somehow become detached from a Deathstalker lay a few feet away.

Using the jagged piece of metal, he dug twin holes in the ground on either side of the camp. It seemed foolish to him when he thought about it, but perhaps the extra work of separating the two would insure that one of them would remain a secret until Vydar’s troops could reclaim them. Vydar would want these back. He was sure of it. The ground was hard and rocky, and with only his improvised shovel, work was slow going. After digging for what seemed like hours, West placed the stones into the holes, filled the holes with dirt, and covered the broken earth with large stone slabs he had found next to the walls surrounding the camp. Hopefully it would be enough.

It was time to go. But, there was one thing left to do. West walked over to one of the trees that had been in the center of the camp, pulling out the combat knife that he wore strapped at his waist. Blinking back a tear, he cut into the bark of the tree - carefully controlling the movement of the blade as he carved the words and numbers. A few minutes later, he had finished.

“In honor of 23.”

Desolation - Inducted into Wargrounds of Scape
Requires 2x SotM, 1x TJ

Frostmire
Requires 1 SotM, 1 TT, 1 TJ

Previous Version

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Frostmire
Requires 1 SotM, 1 TT, 1 TJ

Honor - Inducted into Wargrounds of Scape
Requires 1x RotV, 1x TT, 1x FoA

Mist and Shadow:
Requires 2x BftU, 1x TT

Previous Version

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Mist and Shadow:
Requires 2x BftU, 1x TT

Origin: - Inducted into Wargrounds of Scape
Requires 1x RotV

Venom: - Inducted into Wargrounds of Scape
Requires 1x RotV, 1x RttFF, 1x TJ

Other 2-Player Maps​

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Armament:
Requires 1x RotV, 1x FoA, 1x RttFF

Artifact at Forgotten Lake:
Requires 1x RotV, 2x RttFF

Ashfall: UNDERGOING REVISIONS
Requires 1x RotV, 1x VW, 1x FoA

Awakened
Requires 1x RotV, 1x FoA, 2x TT

Blackridge
Requires 1x RotV, 1x RttFF, 1x FoA

Destiny:
Requires 2x RotV, 2x RttFF, 1x FoA, 1x TJ

Dominion
Requires 1x RotV, 1x FoA, 1x VW

Dragon's Head Summit:
Requires 1x RotV, 2x RttFF, 1x TT

Executioner
Requires 1x RotV, 1x TT

Fairhaven:
Requires 1x RotV, 1x TT, 1x RttFF

Feverstone Keep
Requires 1x RotV, 1x FoA, 1x VW

Flayed:
Requires 1x RotV, 1x BftU, 1x FoA

Graystone Way:
Requires 1x RotV, 2x RttFF

Haukeland Marsh:
Requires 1x RotV, 1x RttFF, 1x TJ

Previous Version

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Haukeland Marsh:
Requires 1x RotV, 1x RttFF, 1x TJ

Hunted
Requires 2x RotV, 2x RttFF, 1x TJ, (optional battlements/ladders from FoA)

Jandar's Summoning Circle:
Requires 1 RotV, 1 FoA, 1 BftU

Laur's Peak:
Requires 1 RotV, 1 RttFF, 1 TT

Morag: UNDERGOING REVISIONS
Requires 1x RotV, 1 VW, 1 TJ

Nightblood
SCAPECON II MAP SUBMISSION
Requires 2x BftU, 1x VW, and Battlements/Ladders from FoA

Preservation
SCAPECON II MAP SUBMISSION
Requires 1x RotV, 1x TT, 1x TJ, and Battlements/Ladders from FoA

ALTERNATE AND PROBABLY BETTER VERSION

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Preservation: No Ladders Edition
Requires 1x RotV, 1x TT, 1x TJ, and extra battlements from FoA

Raodor
Requires 1x SotM, 1x FoA, 1x TJ

Royal Gardens:
Requires 1x RotV, 1x FotA, 1x RttFF

Ruins of Rennoc:
Requires 1 RotV, 1 VW, 1 FoA

Snare
Requires 2x M:TCB, 1x SotM, 1x TJ

Snow Line:
Requires 1 RotV, 1 TT, 1 TJ

Solitude:
Requires 1 RotV, 1 FoA, 1 TT

Spawn: UNDERGOING REVISIONS
Requires 1x RotV, 1x TJ

Steelbreak Keep:
Requires 3x RotV, 2x FoA, 2x TJ, 2x RttFF

Stormwall: UNDERGOING REVISIONS
Requires 1x RotV, 1x FoA

The Crypt
Requires 1 RotV, 1 BftU, 1 FoA

Backstory

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The last rays of sunlight slowly slipped below the horizon as Mogrimm Forgehammer passed through the doorway and into the darkness of the crypt. The air was thick and warm inside and stones crunched under his feet as he walked further into the ancient tomb. He breathed deeply, relishing the smell of dirt and stone as his eyes adjusted to the dim light. After a moment he turned to face the four dwarves who accompanied him.

“There is treasure here. I can feel it.”

The words bounced and echoed off the tall stone walls and Mogrimm hesitated, wishing he hadn’t spoken so loudly. Before the dwarves could respond, a heavy thud resonated from the depths of the crypt. The ground shook as metal clanged against stone.

Gripping battle-worn axes, the dwarves waited, holding their ground as the sound of steps came towards them. In the dim light, Mogrimm could make out the shape of jagged armor and a monstrous sword.

Skull Demon.

The towering figure stopped, but the sound of steps continued. Others were coming. The Skull Demon’s eyes, visible through its massive helmet, burned with blue light as it stared at the dwarves. Wisps of pale blue smoke curled from its mouth as it spoke.

“Welcome… to your death.”

The Rift
Requires 1x RotV, 1x RttFF, 1x TT

Unclaimed
Requires 1x RotV, 1x FoA, 1x TT

Valley of Skulls
Requires 1x SotM, 1x VW, 1x TJ

Where the Streets Have No Name
Requires 1x RotV, 1x RttFF, 1x FoA

Withering Pines:
Requires 1x RotV, 1x VW, 1x RttFF

Previous Version

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Withering Pines:
Requires 1x RotV, 1x VW, 1x RttFF

Multiplayer Maps​

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Elswin Forest:
Requires 2x RotV, 3x RttFF, & 6 battlements from FoA if available

Fountains Of Faramund
Requires 2x RotV, 2x RttFF, 1 FoA

Frenzied:
Requires 1x RotV, 1x SotM, 2x TJ, 1x FoA

Legendary:
Requires 2x RotV, 1x RttFF, 1x FoA, 1x TJ

The Ironwoods:
Requires 2x RotV, 3x RttFF, and 15 battlements from FoA

Scenario and Alternate Format Maps​

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Juxtaposed:
Requires 2x RotV, 1x FoA, 1x RttFF, 1x VW, 1x TT

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So... I feel like I need to explain how this map came into being. I was having a 'Scape night with some buddies, but we hadn't decided what kind of format we wanted to play - if we wanted to do one on one battles, or have a big team battle. So, I was scrambling to build maps last second after we decided what to do. While I was building, I had the thought, "wouldn't it be nice to have a map that could be broken up if you wanted, or combined together to play big battles on?" And I set to work on this. So, it is designed so that one on one games can be played on either side, or the two sides can be built together (or slid together) if you want to do a big team battle or even just a really big one on one. Each side uses its own RotV and expansion, but the castle and forest expansions are split between the two maps.

Kaesh:
HEAT OF BATTLE / SCRAPS FORMAT
Requires 1x BftU, 1x VW

Rust and Ruin:
HEAT OF BATTLE / SCRAPS FORMAT
Requires 1x SotM, 1x FoA

Siron:
HEAT OF BATTLE / SCRAPS FORMAT
Requires 1x RotV, 1x RttFF

Skyborn:
HEAT OF BATTLE / SCRAPS FORMAT
Requires 1x RotV, 1x TT

Maps for Reworking / Pile of Shame​

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Braunglayde Bridge:
Requires 1 RotV, 2 RttFF

Drudgery:
Requires 2x SotM, 2x TJ

Quilato Valley:
Requires 2x RotV, 2x TJ

Road Through Durgeth Swamps:
Requires 2x SotM, 2x TJ, 1 RttFF

Snowy Outpost

The Walls at Kallingway:
Requires 1 RotV, 1 FoA, 1 TT

 

[Sir Heroscape]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

Would you like some help?

EDIT: make sure you have the image link and then just use the coding [img]www.imagelink.com[/img]

 

[Flash_19]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

Would you like some help?

EDIT: make sure you have the image link and then just use the coding [img]www.imagelink.com[/img]

Yes I would. Thanks. Just sent a PM to @Leaf_It asking for help. Can you link to pictures stored on google drive?

 

[Sir Heroscape]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

Would you like some help?

EDIT: make sure you have the image link and then just use the coding [img]www.imagelink.com[/img]

Yes I would. Thanks. Just sent a PM to @Leaf_It asking for help. Can you link to pictures stored on google drive?

You can link to Google+ images...but some browsers can't see those links, so I stayed away from using them. You can use Mediafire though...that's a free online photo storage website. Just sign up there and then you can directly link the image here.

 

[Flash_19]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

Would you like some help?

EDIT: make sure you have the image link and then just use the coding [img]www.imagelink.com[/img]

Yes I would. Thanks. Just sent a PM to @Leaf_It asking for help. Can you link to pictures stored on google drive?

You can link to Google+ images...but some browsers can't see those links, so I stayed away from using them. You can use Mediafire though...that's a free online photo storage website. Just sign up there and then you can directly link the image here.

Awesome. I'll do that. Thanks for your help.

EDIT: I'm excited to get some maps for the ARV contest up here!

 

[Sir Heroscape]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

EDIT: I'm excited to get some maps for the ARV contest up here!

Yeah this would be a great place to post to get some feedback from the community before submitting it to the contest.

 

[rednax]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

I love that you're making three players maps. I agree that there's a significant shortage of them. Have you considered making maps with fewer terrain requirements? That first map requires 3 RotV, FotA, TT, and RttFF, which is quite a lot for one map. It would be really cool to see what you could do with more typical building constraints.

 

[Leaf_It]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

I love that you're making three players maps. I agree that there's a significant shortage of them. Have you considered making maps with fewer terrain requirements? That first map requires 3 RotV, FotA, TT, and RttFF, which is quite a lot for one map. It would be really cool to see what you could do with more typical building constraints.

Agreed.

To help with constraining yourself to specific sets, when you are in Virtualscape, At the top, click "Configuration", then select "Available Material". In the new Dialog menu that appears, at the bottom, hit the reset button. Then along the bottom you will see buttons for each set of terrain. Click each one once for however many of that set you would like to use. Now when you select as piece of terrain, you'll notice that there's a number of pieces you can use to tell how many you can use before you exceed the set limits. The program lets you go past these limit's, but it's helpful to see what you have available.

 

[Flash_19]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

I love that you're making three players maps. I agree that there's a significant shortage of them. Have you considered making maps with fewer terrain requirements? That first map requires 3 RotV, FotA, TT, and RttFF, which is quite a lot for one map. It would be really cool to see what you could do with more typical building constraints.

I appreciate your feedback! It's easy to get caught up in the terrain that you have and forget that other people might be more limited. So, yeah! I'll definitely see what I can do to reduce the terrain requirements. I could easily see this map reduced by 1 ROTV and 1-2 RTTFF (Using pillars instead of trees), and by switching out some of the sand tiles in the start zones.

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks we need more 3 player maps.

 

[Flash_19]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

I love that you're making three players maps. I agree that there's a significant shortage of them. Have you considered making maps with fewer terrain requirements? That first map requires 3 RotV, FotA, TT, and RttFF, which is quite a lot for one map. It would be really cool to see what you could do with more typical building constraints.

Agreed.

To help with constraining yourself to specific sets, when you are in Virtualscape, At the top, click "Configuration", then select "Available Material". In the new Dialog menu that appears, at the bottom, hit the reset button. Then along the bottom you will see buttons for each set of terrain. Click each one once for however many of that set you would like to use. Now when you select as piece of terrain, you'll notice that there's a number of pieces you can use to tell how many you can use before you exceed the set limits. The program lets you go past these limit's, but it's helpful to see what you have available.

Once again, you haven't let me down. Thanks for teaching me something else I didn't know about Virtualscape. That's a great idea.

Oh, and thanks for your response to the pm I sent earlier.

 

[Sir Heroscape]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

Jandar's Summoning Circle
LOVE. THIS. MAP. I'm trying to find issues with it, but I just keep finding things I love about it! So thematic, so well executed with that theme and balanced all at the same time. Both power glyphs are with 2 activations of 5 and 6 move figures. Check. The summoning glyph is SO thematic and fun, it's easily accessible and as you mentioned, that position is (with the LoS blockers) easily contested. the valda glyph will hard a charge on the hill if need be, and it just looks like a solid map. I also like the power glyphs on the edges because it'll force opponents to come off the central height to contest them if they want the bonus or if they want you off of it...and having Valda to help you rush the height will cause fits for any pod armies. No concerns here...other than maybe the freestanding 1-hex dungeon rocks. If I'm not mistaken, I they need to be attached to the side of a hex...or is that just the Ticalla Jungle expansion? @BiggaBullfrog do you know?

Oh also, please provide the backstory Would love to read where you received the inspiration for the map.

Ruins of Rennoc
I really like this map! Very cool design and I think well executed.

Couple notes:
- interesting use of road, but I like it. The map is already relatively low and short, so movement across the center is already fast, so the road provides an interesting, faster lateral movement, though I don't know how practical that will be in gameplay since the lateral movement is all on low grown (except for a couple pieces on the edges) just outside the startzone.
-The Aesthetics of this map are beautiful...I like it the more I look at it
-Jalgard (Def +2) is broken...please remove it. I doubt others will disagree. Even on lava, a temporary bonus of +2 def is just too powerful. Gerda (def +1) would do just fine and I think still accomplish what you're looking for here.
- One concern might be that range can take some good height turn one and even better height by turn 2, while also taking some nice shots at oncoming troops (due to the openness of the center), BUT I feel that the center is low enough and designed well enough to warrant quick and easy development for melee to charge up to range. You'll never have perfect cover or positioning as melee vs range...and while openness here helps range...I think melee will be able to move fast enough to be okay (and if they control the defense glyph, that also helps)
- add a backstory, would love to see where you got the inspiration for this map

Overall, very well done. I love this map!

Both maps look great, I don't see any major, blaring issues that need reworking. Just the minor glyph change for Ruins of Rennoc and I think that's really it... overall I think you've designed some solid maps.

 

[BiggaBullfrog]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

Awesome to see you sharing maps with the community Flash! They look really good for your first few; I'm impressed!

Jandar's Summoning Circle:

In response to Sir H's question, there's no special rule for building with rock outcrops, so your use of them as standalones is more than fine.

Looks like a solid and intriguing build overall. I am going to disagree about the Summoning glyph, though. I don't feel like it's a good glyph for tournament use. One concern is, as you mention, Q9. The problem here is that in two turns you can have Q9 on the highest ground surrounded by Rats on turn 2. Normally it will take Q9 three turns to get up there, on top of the turns used to screen with Rats. Even with the map using road and LoS blockers to try to mitigate that strength, that's a huge strength I would take any day. Another concern is using Greenscales and a Dragon to claim the high ground and summon Raelin to back them up. One of the few weaknesses of these pod armies is the time it takes for them to get set up, and the Summong glyph is going to get rid of that.

Another mark against the Summoning glyph in my book is how it can screw up an opponent's army. You can use it to summon their Spartacus, Kato, Kurrok, Raelin, Kantono, Master Lao Xin, etc. and completely wreck their army. So while I like the glyph thematically and think it would make for great casual/scenario play, I would advocate against its use competitively with only very rare exceptions, if any.

But beyond that, the build is really good. LoS blockers are being used really well to protect glyphs and advancing units to keep that central high ground from being the only focal point of the map. Action will be spread out and there is ample opportunity for skirmishing in addition to a tough fight for the top. I like it!

One more concern I noticed: it looks like a lot of the terrain available to you in the sets you've included is going unused, especially from the BftU. While not a huge deal, it's always nice from a tournament director's stance if the terrain is used efficiently when they're putting things together. If possible, I would look at changing the BftU into a different set and seeing if you can't get better mileage out of it, since all you need are some LoS blockers and supporting hexes. TT could work, and I think Jandar's stuff is pretty close to Thaelenk anyway IIRC, or possibly even RttFF if you can use road underneath the top layers to free up hexes to replace those that will be lost in the Start Zone. Even if you don't use all the trees/glaciers if you go that way, I feel like it will feel like a better use of the sets than just a fraction of BftU.

Ruins of Rennoc:

I really like this one. It's got some interesting pathing going on and it looks like a fun skirmish. LoS blockers are again doing a good job of segregating the map into "zones" for the action to happen in.

Like Sir H said, Jalgard is just way too good, and the lava won't balance that enough. Giving Raelin to your whole army is really strong. Gerda should be fine there in the middle.

The road is intriguing. I'm not convinced that it's being put to its best use, but the map is small enough from Start Zone to Start Zone that you don't really need its bonus there. It's definitely something I'm willing to try out.

Aesthetically it just looks great. Good job on creating this landmark from the compendium!


Side note for the maps: technically according to our by-laws, when you submit maps to the contest they need to use different master sets, and both of these use RotV, meaning they both can't be submitted together (right @Sir Heroscape ?). Which is rough because they're both really good and I'd be excited to play on both.

 

[Sir Heroscape]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

Yes @BiggaBullfrog you are correct...the summoning glyph here will be a major bonus for those podding armies and a huge killer for those armies dependent on certain heroes. I was just so excited about the build and the theme, I didn’t take enough time to consider that point. Simply removing the glyph will still make for a great map build.

Regarding the use of RotV twice for both submissions...yes Bigga you are correct that according to our rules for the contest RotV currently can only be used in one of the submissions. Though, this is a point I think I’ll be bringing up in our private forum for discussion.

 

[Flash_19]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

Yes @BiggaBullfrog you are correct...the summoning glyph here will be a major bonus for those podding armies and a huge killer for those armies dependent on certain heroes. I was just so excited about the build and the theme, I didn’t take enough time to consider that point. Simply removing the glyph will still make for a great map build.

Regarding the use of RotV twice for both submissions...yes Bigga you are correct that according to our rules for the contest RotV currently can only be used in one of the submissions. Though, this is a point I think I’ll be bringing up in our private forum for discussion.

Thank you so much for your feedback @Sir Heroscape and @BiggaBullfrog! I appreciate it very much.

While part of me aches a little inside to say it, yes, I agree with you about the Summoning glyph on Jandar's Summoning Circle. It's just so thematic! But you make a solid point. I will most definitely use it in casual games though. So if it's okay, I'l leave it in the build instructions, but make a note to remove it for tournament play - dependent of course on if the map is deemed suitable for tournament play.

I will most definitely get the back stories up - thanks for the reminder.

Glad to hear you both think the glyph of Gerda could be effectively used to replace Jalgaard on Ruins of Rennoc. I will make that change.

Lastly, that was kinda a downer about the use of master sets, but it is the rules so I'll create another map to submit unless you guys decide to change that rule. But, under the current rules, I would also not be able to submit the one I don't use to a future contest, correct? So of the two, which would you say is the better submission?

 

[Sir Heroscape]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

@Flash_19 feel free to submit both your maps per our change to the contest rules per this post.

 

[Flash_19]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

@Flash_19 feel free to submit both your maps per our change to the contest rules per this post.

Sweeet!!! I think that's a great change. Thanks guys!

 

[Leaf_It]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

Darn... you're giving me a run fore my money. I'm going to have to up my game, these maps are just too good.

 

[Flash_19]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

Darn... you're giving me a run fore my money. I'm going to have to up my game, these maps are just too good.

That's very kind of you. But I've seen one of the maps you're submitting - and I liked it a lot. So I wouldn't put it that way. It'll be fun to see all the maps and what happens!

 

[TREX]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

Those both look super awesome. I especially like summoning circle . great work on these.

 

[Flash_19]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

Those both look super awesome. I especially like summoning circle . great work on these.

Thanks Trex! You are a former ARV judge right? feel free to lay on any other feedback you might have. Bet I could guess the first one - you want me to incorporate Wannok into both of them, eh?

#justiceForFenHydras

 

[Flash_19]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

@Sir Heroscape and @BiggaBullfrog:

I've been tinkering with some changes to Ruins of Rennoc that I wanted to run past you.
(again - thanks for taking the time to repond to these requests for feedback)

Spoiler Alert!

Build Instructions
.hsc File

To give you a basic overview of what I've done:
- I added two pillars to the middle of the map replacing some molten lava tiles. I did this because after physically building the map, it felt just a little too open in the middle, so I wanted to give a little more cover without making the middle feel too congested. Because of adding the pillars, it makes a narrow spot between walls, that I'm personally not worried about, but I'm curious if you are. I feel like there is enough mobility around that narrow spot.
- Because of the added pillars, I adjusted some of the existing pillars slightly.
- I redesigned the part of the map that is just outside the start zone on the right side.
- I also filled in all the gaps in the ridge next to the start zone because I thought the gaps looked funny. Hopefully that's not a problem...

 

[Sir Heroscape]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

@Sir Heroscape and @BiggaBullfrog:

I've been tinkering with some changes to Ruins of Rennoc that I wanted to run past you.
(again - thanks for taking the time to repond to these requests for feedback)

Spoiler Alert!

Build Instructions
.hsc File

To give you a basic overview of what I've done:
- I added two pillars to the middle of the map replacing some molten lava tiles. I did this because after physically building the map, it felt just a little too open in the middle, so I wanted to give a little more cover without making the middle feel too congested. Because of adding the pillars, it makes a narrow spot between walls, that I'm personally not worried about, but I'm curious if you are. I feel like there is enough mobility around that narrow spot.
- Because of the added pillars, I adjusted some of the existing pillars slightly.
- I redesigned the part of the map that is just outside the start zone on the right side.
- I also filled in all the gaps in the ridge next to the start zone because I thought the gaps looked funny. Hopefully that's not a problem...

Would you mind pointing out the changes? I’m not sure I can see a difference...all I know is I liked your original a lot. Also include why you made the changes were made (cause I’d like to know if they were completely necessary.)

 

[Flash_19]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

@Sir Heroscape and @BiggaBullfrog:

I've been tinkering with some changes to Ruins of Rennoc that I wanted to run past you.
(again - thanks for taking the time to repond to these requests for feedback)

Spoiler Alert!

Build Instructions
.hsc File

To give you a basic overview of what I've done:
- I added two pillars to the middle of the map replacing some molten lava tiles. I did this because after physically building the map, it felt just a little too open in the middle, so I wanted to give a little more cover without making the middle feel too congested. Because of adding the pillars, it makes a narrow spot between walls, that I'm personally not worried about, but I'm curious if you are. I feel like there is enough mobility around that narrow spot.
- Because of the added pillars, I adjusted some of the existing pillars slightly.
- I redesigned the part of the map that is just outside the start zone on the right side.
- I also filled in all the gaps in the ridge next to the start zone because I thought the gaps looked funny. Hopefully that's not a problem...

Would you mind pointing out the changes? I’m not sure I can see a difference...all I know is I liked your original a lot. Also include why you made the changes were made (cause I’d like to know if they were completely necessary.)

The changes were at the bottom of the spoiler. Unless you wanted a little more detail on why I made them. A couple were definitely aesthetic - I just thought they looked better. But the two most important ones had to do with providing a little more cover in the middle of the map (which you had hinted might be a slight concern, and I agreed after physically building the map) and improving the flow of the right side out of the start zone by getting rid of that kind of awkward single hex that seemed to hinder movement, and lifting part of the road up a level to help it be a little more useful with getting to higher ground.

 

[Sir Heroscape]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

@Sir Heroscape and @BiggaBullfrog:

I've been tinkering with some changes to Ruins of Rennoc that I wanted to run past you.
(again - thanks for taking the time to repond to these requests for feedback)

Spoiler Alert!

Build Instructions
.hsc File

To give you a basic overview of what I've done:
- I added two pillars to the middle of the map replacing some molten lava tiles. I did this because after physically building the map, it felt just a little too open in the middle, so I wanted to give a little more cover without making the middle feel too congested. Because of adding the pillars, it makes a narrow spot between walls, that I'm personally not worried about, but I'm curious if you are. I feel like there is enough mobility around that narrow spot.
- Because of the added pillars, I adjusted some of the existing pillars slightly.
- I redesigned the part of the map that is just outside the start zone on the right side.
- I also filled in all the gaps in the ridge next to the start zone because I thought the gaps looked funny. Hopefully that's not a problem...

Would you mind pointing out the changes? I’m not sure I can see a difference...all I know is I liked your original a lot. Also include why you made the changes were made (cause I’d like to know if they were completely necessary.)

The changes were at the bottom of the spoiler. Unless you wanted a little more detail on why I made them. A couple were definitely aesthetic - I just thought they looked better. But the two most important ones had to do with providing a little more cover in the middle of the map (which you had hinted might be a slight concern, and I agreed after physically building the map) and improving the flow of the right side out of the start zone by getting rid of that kind of awkward single hex that seemed to hinder movement, and lifting part of the road up a level to help it be a little more useful with getting to higher ground.

Wow haha...not sure how I missed your points at the bottom of the spoiler lol oops. That's perfect. Thanks for pointing those out.

EDIT: I like the changes. Agreed that single-hex choke point is prime real estate for camping a rat or two while shooting over the top (or another other screen/range army)...but you might be right about it not being too concerning. You might run a game or two on it as is, specifically trying to utilize that choke point in a range vs melee battle and see if it seems too advantageous for range campers. You'll be able to tell pretty quick if melee struggles to route the opponent and contest the position.

 

[BiggaBullfrog]

Re: Flash_19's Maps & Scenarios

I'm not too worried about that choke-point with the new pillar. It was already a chokepoint because the space used to be lava, and you can only very slightly move through that more easily than a pillar. It's just more noticeable now. Overall I think your changes are probably good. I'll admit that I have a very mild preference for the original version, but that might be due to some kind of weird attachment, because I have absolutely no good reason to mildly prefer it.