End Times

[japes]

yea

 

[IAmBatman]

Is anyone able to access the TTS workshop link from what I posted? I thought I had it updated correctly, but I've gotten reports that it's not working for everyone. Not sure what I did wrong, but my work also blocks Steam, so not sure I can fix it today! If anyone else is able to access it currently, I'd appreciate any help I could get with an update.

 

[Karat]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT End Times

Army Test

- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes

- What should be the unit's point value? 190-210?

- Give a brief overview. This was a brutal game but Panthro chose to stay in the Master Gundam when he probably should have vacated it and took 3 wounds for his effort (just realized I forgot that he can repair it at the end of a round..so would have only been 1 overflow wound there). Tiva entering the fray seemed hopeless but some careful and strategic plays almost took the win for her.

Map: End Times

Units: Panthro, Cheetara, Wonder Woman (JL), Master Gundam (1,000) vs Lady Death, War Angel, Hellslinger, Tiva Steelheart (1,000)

Spoiler Alert!

Cheetara and Panthro are recruited to the JL. Panthro is driving the Master Gundam.

R1

JL has initiative. In T1 Panthro flies up in the Master; War Angel flies up behind a car. In T2 Cheetara speeds up; Tiva removes a marker giving Hellslinger a move action and he teleports up with Lady Death and Tiva and Lady Death advances throwing a Trash Can at Cheetara but it just crumples and then she removes an OM to attack again but still misses the agile Cheetara. In T3 Master is manuevered up and throws a car at Lady Death giving her 3 wounds defeating the car in the process; Tiva removes an OM giving War Angel a move action and Hellslinger advances throwing a Mailbox at Master for a wound and removes an OM and blasts it for another wound.

R2

Diana removes a JL Marker. The JL would lose initiative ( 11 vs 18 ) but Cheetara moves an OM to Diana and they win initiative. In T1 Panthro has Master unleash Sekiha Tenkyouken (7 additional dice and 7 hits) hitting a Car, Lady Death, and War Angel taking all 3 of them out!: OM on Lady Death. In T2 Cheetara speeds in smacking Hellslinger with a car for 3 wounds and then zooms next to another car; OM on War Angel. In T3 Panthro alighted Master next to the Tornado and adjacent to Hellslinger and finished him on the first attack of Suibu Saibenkouko; OM on Hellfire.

R3

Wondy removes a JL Marker. The Sworn have initiative. In T1 Tiva throws a Car at Master giving it 3 wounds and defeating the Car; Panthro has Master engage Tiva and hit her for 3 wounds. In T2 Tiva gives herself a move action and heals before smacking Master with a Lamp Post finishing it and Master off and giving Panthro 3 wounds in the process; Cheetara speeds in and Bo Staff Assaults Tiva for 2 wounds and speeds off. In T3 Tiva gives herself a move action and heals running into the Thunderstorm where she is struck by Lightning but shrugs it off and attacks down on Panthro and finishes him off; OM on Panthro.

R4

The Sworn have initiative. In T1 Tiva gives herself a move action healing and engaging Cheetara giving her a wound; Cheetara Bo Assaults Tiva for 1 wound over 2 attacks and speeds away. In T2 Tiva gives herself a move action healing and riskes the Tornado's fury to engage Cheetara and finish her; OM on Cheetara but Tiva is blown 2 spaces closer to the enemy. In T3 Tiva defies the fury of the Thunderstorm and stands in it's heart waiting for Wondy to come; Wondy flies up next to a dumpster.

R5

Wondy removes her last JL marker. The sworn have initiative. In T1 Tiva gives herself a move action healing and runs in throwing a Dumpster at Wondy giving her 3 wounds and defeating the dumpster; Wondy takes height on Tiva giving her a wound. In T2 Tiva gives herself a move action healing and is lassoed by Wondy so she attacks up giving Wondy 2 more wounds; Wondy finishes off Tiva for the win.

Who won and how many wounds did they have? The Justice League won with Wonder Woman bearing 5/6 wounds.

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Army Test

- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes

- What should be the unit's point value? 200

- Give a brief overview. Couldn't have gotten a closer result. Thor did some huge damage early but then got walloped himself and things didn't look great for his team but Panthro did some work and cleared the field enough that Oracle and Misty had to have a showdown...which Oracle won which was fun to see!

Map: End Times

Units: Panthro, Cheetara, Thor (Leader), Oracle, Zaku II (1,000) vs Luke Cage, Misty Knight, Black Manta, Punisher (Fighter), Captain America II (1,000)

Spoiler Alert!

Panthro is driving a Zaku with a Heavy Machine Gun. Misty recruits Black Manta into the Marvel Knights. Cap makes Punisher and Manta Avengers.

R1

Punisher maneuvers 4 spaces following Misty's instructions. Warriors have initiative. Punisher advances 2 spaces following Cap's orders. In T1 Thor flies up; Manta advances and Punisher moves into the Fog as Luke moves up. In T2 Thor advances; Cap advances and Punisher maneuvers up and hits Thor with a Punishing Shot for a wound as Luke moves up. In T3 Thor uses Mighty Mjolnir (11) to give Cage 1 wound and then Lava Dunk him for 2 Exposure wounds (3-1), Punisher for a wound knocking him out of the fog and onto Lavafield, and Manta dodges it as Thor appears engaged to Luke and Punisher on height and Oracle enacts her Secret Attack Plan he finishes Punisher and then Drops the Hammer and Panthro drives the Zaku up as Cheetara zooms forward; Manta hits Thor with a Concussive Energy Beam knocking him down and Punisher maneuvers off Lavafield and back into the Fog and hits Thor for a wound and Luke moves out of the Lava to height on Thor hitting him for 2 wounds.

R2

Misty sends Cap up next to Cage making it more difficult for Thor to take even height. Marvel Knights have initiative. Cap has Manta reposition. In T1 Cap engages Thor and is a Steadfast Striker (2 Shields) hitting Thor for 2 wounds and then leaping back to his previous position and Luke finishes off Thor and Oracle moves 1 OM to Cheetara and 1 OM to Panthro; Panthro flies the Zaku up giving Manta 1 wound with the Heavy Machine Gun. In T2 Cap advances and is a Steadfast Striker (1 Shield) but misses and uses his moment to move off of Lavafield and Luke moves up throwing a Mailbox at Cheetara giving her a wound and destroying the Mailbox; Cheetara runs to height on Luke and Oracle calls her Secret Attack Plan giving him a wound. In T3 Manta engages Cheetara giving her a wound with his Projectile Arsenal (+1 Attack both times); Panthro advances the Zaku onto Lavafield and disembarks into the Tornado to knock Luke out. Cheetara takes a wound from Lavafield.

R3

Misty has Cap take control of the Zaku. Marvel Knights would have initiative but Cheetara uses her Sixth Sense to move an OM to Oracle and they win initiative (13 vs 17). In T1 Panthro ignores the buffeting winds hits the Zaku with a Secret Attack Plan for 3 wounds; Panthro ignores the buffeting winds as Manta finishes off Cheetara with his Projectile Arsenal and Oracle moves her OM to Panthro. In T2 Panthro continues to ignore the buffeting winds and hits the Zaku hard enough to defeat it and give Cap 4 wounds; Manta misses Panthro with his Projectile Arsenal. In T3 Panthro cannot hold his footing any longer and is blown to low ground next to Manta taking no exposure damage (1-1) and then hits Manta with a Car for 2 wounds defeating the car in the process; Cap takes height on Panthro giving him 1 wound. Manta catches fire from the Lavafield and is defeated.

R4

Misty maneuvers up. Marvel Knights have initiative. In T1 Cap is a Steadfast Strike (2 shields) but is blocked; Panthro moves around and Cap and would finish him but Cap ignores it and gives him a wound. In T2 Misty moves up and misses Panthro; Panthro uses the Secret Attack Plan to finish Cap but not without falling himself and Oracle takes his OM. In T3 Misty advances tactically; Oracle wheels herself forward mentally preparing for what is coming.

R5

Misty moves up. Marvel Knights have initiative. In T1 Misty moves up but Oracle is just out of Range; Oracle wheels behind a dumpster. In T2 Misty advances; Oracle holds her position knowing her enemy has to take the low ground to attack her. In T3 Misty engages Oracle from low ground trying to use her Cybernetic Arm to end this but misses; Oracle enacts her Secret Attack Plan and uses her height advantage to give Misty 2 wounds.

R6

Marvel Knights have initiative. In T1 Misty misses Oracle; Oracle tries to use her Secret Attack Plan to end this but misses Misty. In T2 Misty hits Oracle for 3 wounds; Oracle hits Misty for 1 wound. In T3 Misty misses Oracle; Oracle misses Misty.

R7

Warriors have initiative. In T1 Oracle uses her Secret Attack Plan and finishes Misty off for the win!

Who won and how many wounds did they have? The Warriors won with Oracle bearing 3/4 wounds.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: The map plays pretty well but the hazards are fairly easy to avoid. Especially the Tornados which almost felt a bit waisted but they came into play a couple of times where it was worth the risk to end a turn on the nearby spaces so might be fine but I do wonder if maybe moving them somewhere where there are more affected spaces wouldn't work a bit better? The one Hazzard that felt a little less impactful was the Fog but was still used and could be useful for anti-range. The map itself feels balanced but usually has lots of throwing if you have SS figures on one side or the other which almost paints the picture of a travesty.

One thought I did have on the Tornados/hazards are that they can shift during cleanup. Like each play can move them one space but it has to be on the opposing side. I weas thinking the Tornados specifically cause in nature they often wind and move but it might be better to just leave them as is too. Just food for thought really

 

[Ericth74]

Overall Look: Looks great. Hits the theme of the end of the world with a rip in reality, right on the head.

Stability: Played on TTS but I can't see how it could be an issue.

Build difficulty: Played on TTS but looks pretty easy and straight forward.

Size: Medium sized map, good for a 2 player game.

Unit types positively affected: Super Strength figures can use all the DO's and avoid some exposure. Also figures that can move opponents. Being able to lava dunk or place a figure on or adjacent to a Weather Hazard is big.

Unit types negatively affected: Slow ground pounders, but that's probably almost every map.

Key areas on the Map: Tough to say, avoiding the Weather Hazards is a big key.

Areas not used much or at all: Any space near the start zone. The dumpster didn't come into play at all in my games and I can't see how it really could, it just slows down you moving out of the start zones.

Game 1:

Spoiler Alert!

Army Test
Map: End Times
Units: 1000 pts – Baron Zemo 180, Melter 160, Enchantress 320, Executioner 340 VS 1000 pts – Ultron 375, Ultron Drones x5 625

Tough match up for the MoE. With Ultron shutting down Bonding as he got close and all of the Ultron team having some defensive bonuses they were tough to take down. Executioner had a challenging time without bonding with Enchantress, he did take out 3 Drones by himself though. Melter got a few extra attacks in but was pretty useless against Ultron Prime who couldn't have his defense reduced. Executioner hit a 7 skull roll against Ultron who took 4 wounds but was able to defeat a Drone and get out of trouble and get a fresh body. Once Ultron moved to a new body his team took control and ended the game quickly.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Ultron 2 wounds/4 life left, 1Ultron Drone 2 wounds/1 life left

Game 2:

Spoiler Alert!

Army Test
Map: Custom Map - Endor
Units: 1000 pts – Kingpin 250, Taskmaster 270, Bullseye 170, Melter 160, Hired Henchmen x2 130, Price is Right Story Card x 2 20 VS 1000 pts – Luke Cage 190, Misty Knight 180, Iron Fist 260, Jessica Jones 220, Moon Knight 150

Increased Melter's Special Attack to 4 and dropped the Range to 5for this game as it was coming in weak.
Teams moved in toward the center of the map. The Henchmen were able to put some wounds on Moon Knight and Iron Fist but couldn't finish them off. The Heroes for Hire had to deal with the Henchmen first while the Criminal heroes fired away from behind the screen. Melter was able to use his Sneaky Strike a few times doing wounds that took out Iron Fist and Moon Knight. Cage and Taskmaster both went down on back to back turns leaving full life Jones and Misty vs Kingpin and wounded Bullseye and Melter. Jones dropped Melter and Bullseye on back to back turns before going down to a big Kingpin attack. Misty Knight was able to stay away from Kingpin to put enough wounds on him to win the game.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Misty Knight 1 wound/3 life left

Final Thoughts: This is a fun map to play on. The Weather hazards are a nice twist, I do feel like they may make the games feel kind of the same though because of how they are placed and how you move around them. That being said, the “hole in reality” in the center of the map does make you decide which way around the map you are going to go which can make for interesting decisions. In both games I found myself splitting my team up and sending figures to each side of the hole. Probably wouldn't change anything on the map except maybe the placement of the dumpster, but could also live with where it is.

 

[IAmBatman]

I figure the dumpster helps give you a spot to hide from range with start zone figures/slow start zone bombing and there's a chance to throw it at least if things end up on one side of the map. I could see just scrapping them to simplify setup if you don't think it's worthwhile, though?

The Thunderstorm hits on low enough amounts that I've definitely jumped up there for height before. The Tornadoes you more work around, but if figure movers get involved, they do more then. Also if a car gets thrown near them, that will trigger them, which I think is fun.

I'll leave time (over night at least, if not more) for comment but am leaning towards moving forward as-is if y'all support that.

 

[Ericth74]

I'm happy with leaving the dumpster where it is, I think it just will rarely come into play and that's okay. It'll be fun when it does.

 

[IAmBatman]

Cool. If there are any lingering objections to how things look, please speak up, but in the meantime lets vote for Final Editing

 

[Ericth74]

yea

 

[Skinderella]

Yea

 

[Arch-vile]

Yea

 

[IAmBatman]

Would love one more vote here, unless there are concerns?

 

[Karat]

Yea

 

[IAmBatman]

This passes. Thanks! Realizing I also need to build this and measure it before I can move it forward ....

 

[Arch-vile]

One typo here: "L = Stree Light"

All else looks good

 

[japes]

This passes. Thanks! Realizing I also need to build this and measure it before I can move it forward ....

Yes Please

 

[IAmBatman]

Just finished!

 

[IAmBatman]

OP updated with measurements. VS file link is in post #7. Please let me know if there's anything else you need for this!

 

[japes]

Files uploaded

 

[Arch-vile]

pre-yea

 

[IAmBatman]

Sweet. Thanks.

Lets go On Deck!
@japes - yea
@Karat - yea
@Skinderella -
Archie - yea

 

[Karat]

Yea

 

[japes]

yea

 

[Skinderella]

Yea, loving all the new maps!

 

[IAmBatman]

Sweet! I think this is my first original (non-scenario) map in our library. Thanks for bearing with me!

 

[IAmBatman]

Realizing we didn't do the standard 24 start zone spaces here. Would folks be OK with my updating with that?

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