C3G Future Direction Thread

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Deadshot and Strucker were just off the top of my head. I literally came up with this as I typed. I think some of your stuff could be reworked to fit in as well. Personally, I think we do have some niche fans interested in Firestar though, not that I am really one of them.

Nor am I. Maybe we should confirm that someone working on the project is before putting him into the wave.

This wasn't my actual suggestion for our next wave, just a for instance of what I was talking about. Seems we have alot of visual people involved.

My point was to think outside the box, like we did with Vertigo.

Honestly, as much as I enjoyed putting his card together and like how he turned out, something in me almost regrets putting Vertigo in the Master Set.
The way I see it is this - this project has a finite life to it. As much as Griffin and I joke about working on this for the next thirty years, that's just not a realistic expectation. For that reason, I think to an extent we need to treat every wave like it's our last. Get out thematic boosters that can stand alone. Get out big names early and leave fringe characters for a bit down the road. And the thing is, there are soooo many big names that they can fill the boosters to a large extent for a good ten waves without trouble. That, and a couple more Master Sets and a couple Large Figure Expansions as well. That's enough material there for years of work, without someone as niche as Firestar ever showing up (and I'm OK with that, because the characters that would be included would be more iconic and higher priorities to me as a creator).

I see where you are coming from, but I don't neccesarily agree. The length of this project will remain healthy as long as the game itself is viable. If heroscape dies, then we are in trouble. As long as people enjoy the process as well, it will remain viable. I may have gone overboard with the unknowns, but we shouldn't lose them altogether, even if we do the Indy's as the unknown each wave (which is kinda what I am for, especially with Garada and Matthelm doing such excellent work on the Hellboy stuff).

And Wave planning should not be one persons' responsibility, to me that takes alot of the fun out of this project. I don't feel any of us signed on to be dictated to.

I agree with this, and I'm not suggesting anyone dictate. It certainly should be a shared approach. If anything, I'm questioning the shift in approach from separate DC and Marvel boosters than shifts within individual boosters.
I also don't believe I'm doing any dictating if that's the insinuation here. All of my suggestions thus far are merely suggestions and have been made with the input of many members here and anyone who's chosen to comment on this thread.
Giant Man was included because people said they were interested in Giant Man. The DC booster was based around the theme of Brave and the Bold because that's the theme we chose as a group. And so on.

This was a response to your comment "turn Wave planning over to me". To me, if we officially vote on nothing else, the characters we do should be the number one thing we take a vote on.

The beauty of this is that it is a community effort from who we do, to how we do them, to when we do them. I think we have done a great job debating in the past some of these sets and who to include/exclude, we just need a little more voice from some other members right now.

I'm all about getting more input from people, don't get me wrong, but there's something to be said for strong leadership that pushes a project forward as well. If we do nothing but debate and vote and debate and vote, it slows down the process incredibly. Having someone willing to take the lead and show initiative can be very useful and, no offense, is something that's made this project work so far. Not trying to toot my own horn, but I've spent hours pushing this project forward and I think the results speak for themselves.

100% agreed. No argument here. I doubt DC World's Finest would be ready to launch soon if not for your pushing through the testing and such. BUT, somethings it is OK to drag our feet a little on. Choosing who we do should be one of those things.

My main purpose was not to undermine you, but to look at the whole wave thing from a different perspective. I mean we are setting the rules, why do we have to be limited to Marvel in X number of boosters and DC in Y number. First and foremost this is for us. If we wanna do a wave that consists of all Villains and Thor, we should feel fine doing it.

 

[IAmBatman]

Fair enough.

 

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Night Bats. Thanks for your dedication to this project. I don't think you hear that enough.

 

[IAmBatman]

Thanks, I appreciate that. Have a good night, Spidey.

 

[GreyOwl]

One question I'll throw out there...do we need to plan our waves out that far in advance, or even at all? Can't we just wait until we're ready to work on a wave and then decided what we want to do at that time? We should keep in mind that our membership (both people and total number) and interests may be different by the time we actually get to a wave than it is now.

 

[IAmBatman]

No, you're absolutely right. In my excitement for this new forum and for the idea of the future direction of this project in general, I got a bit overzealous. I wasn't really looking to nail anything down anyway, so much as share ideas.

 

[GreyOwl]

I'm okay with it then. If we're just talking and planning and discussing, that's cool. I just don't want to vote and lock anything in this far ahead.

 

[IAmBatman]

Oh, definitely no voting yet - and voting would be needed to lock anything down.
I'm still liking the idea of one booster to represent each of our first three originally planned waves, though (Brave and the Bold, X-Men, and Avengers).

 

[Spidey'tilIDie]

I am not against this idea either, especially for the first Wave. However, the other way allows us to put out MM, Flash, GL, and Wonder Woman in the set along with appropriate Villains, which if we aren't gonna hold people back, I really wanna do!

 

[IAmBatman]

As long as I get the "big five" within the first two waves, I'm happy.

 

[Spidey'tilIDie]

OK, just finished reading Issue 2 of the new Black Widow Origin story, gotta say awesome! It is making me very pumped to create her, especially as it seems she has been "involved" with nearly every male Avenger! They just revealed that she is a recipient of the Russian version of the Super-Soldier Serum, which is why she hasn't aged since her intro! Lets create her in our next Wave!