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C3G Future Direction Thread

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If you have ideas for the Brave and the Bold thread, the first X-Men thread, and the general direction of the project, here's the place to get them out while we work on the projects at hand! :)
What we're mainly going to need to figure out for the future is what exactly we want in a "wave."
The one thing I know is that it should be compatible with a 6 hero set ... as in the number of units produced should be dividable by 6.
So 12 cards, or 18 cards seem like solid contenders, IMO.
 
See I was thinking more that waves are released in four miniature sets. Unique heroes seem to be released in fives. Squads in threes of fours, usually. So with that math we are looking a 14-15 unique heroes and 2 squads of three or four. I realize that waves usually only have one pack of unique heroes (although some waves such as 5 seem to have more) Marvelscape or Superheroscape, I think we can all agree, needs to be Hero heavy. Just my :2cents:
 
Is that because of the number of heroes in C3G?

Cause 18 cards would be one more than I proposed earlier and would be divisable by 6.
 
I'm also confused on the logic of "divisible by 6". I'm sure there is some, I just don't know it.

Overall, though, I'd like to keep our waves rather small. There's no reason to rush through all of the figures. Let's keep our fan base wanting more. If it has to be divisible by 6, I'd say 3 heroes and 3 villians.

How about this:

Wave 1:

3 JLA Heroes / 3 DC Villians
3 Avengers / 3 Avengers Villians
3 X-Men / 3 X-Men Villians
2 Squads of 3

That would be 24 figures in one wave.

I'm worried that if we do 18 JLA figures in one Wave, we exhaust any further interest from our fanbase.
 
That's exactly why, yeah. We wouldn't be doing Glyphs or promo figures or anything in the waves, just figures, so keeping it so each hero could do the same amount would be golden. Thus the 12 or 18 idea.
I currently prefer 18. And I think we could get together 18 really great units for Brave and the Bold.
In that 18, I'd like to stick to just two squads too, both to keep figure expenses down and to continue the high emphasis on heroes (which I think is our main area of interest anyway).
 
Balantai said:
I'm also confused on the logic of "divisible by 6". I'm sure there is some, I just don't know it.

Overall, though, I'd like to keep our waves rather small. There's no reason to rush through all of the figures. Let's keep our fan base wanting more. If it has to be divisible by 6, I'd say 3 heroes and 3 villians.

How about this:

Wave 1:

3 JLA Heroes / 3 DC Villians
3 Avengers / 3 Avengers Villians
3 X-Men / 3 X-Men Villians
2 Squads of 3

That would be 24 figures in one wave.

I'm worried that if we do 18 JLA figures in one Wave, we exhaust any further interest from our fanbase.
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You know ... four booster amalgamated waves are really actually a pretty darn good idea. It'd make the waves hard to name, but the boosters could still be themed. We'd be moving away from the Brave and the Bold/X-Men wave/Indie wave idea, but I think that's a good thing, and that mixing in some Indie figures in a single booster would be approached much more easily this way as well.
This is definitely an idea I can get behind.
And, in case it's not clear yet, the divisible by 6 thing is because we'll theoretically have 6 card creators and I don't think anyone wants to be shortchanged. :p

Edit: Shoot, that's actually only 20 cards, though, so we'd either have to lose 2 cards or add 4. The figures don't need to be divisible by 6 - the cards do.
 
So, Balantai, you think each wave should contain an addition to each Master Set? :ponder:

I think I like this idea. It lets each of us answer our personal cravings more often. Perhaps we could throw in some indy characters occasionally thi way when we lack a decent squad idea. Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I like it! Kinda has that who-is-gonna-reinforce-what-general feel to it.
 
Also, doing it this way would allow us to release one famous, one decently known and one unknown figure per side.

Actually, we could probably add one Indy 6-pack per wave, also. Hellboy would be a good choice. :D
 
Though, personally, I wouldn't want to see every wave weighted in favor of Marvel like that. :p Hopefully Wave 2 would have more DC weighting. Just b/c we'll only have one DC Master set, doesn't mean there aren't many ideas outside the JLA we'll want to explore.
Oh, and we still need to fix the numbers, there ... I guess one 6 hero booster, two 5 hero boosters, and one 2 squad booster would probably be the best way to go.
 
IAmBatman said:
Balantai said:
I'm also confused on the logic of "divisible by 6". I'm sure there is some, I just don't know it.

Overall, though, I'd like to keep our waves rather small. There's no reason to rush through all of the figures. Let's keep our fan base wanting more. If it has to be divisible by 6, I'd say 3 heroes and 3 villians.

How about this:

Wave 1:

3 JLA Heroes / 3 DC Villians
3 Avengers / 3 Avengers Villians
3 X-Men / 3 X-Men Villians
2 Squads of 3

That would be 24 figures in one wave.

I'm worried that if we do 18 JLA figures in one Wave, we exhaust any further interest from our fanbase.
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You know ... four booster amalgamated waves are really actually a pretty darn good idea. It'd make the waves hard to name, but the boosters could still be themed. We'd be moving away from the Brave and the Bold/X-Men wave/Indie wave idea, but I think that's a good thing, and that mixing in some Indie figures in a single booster would be approached much more easily this way as well.
This is definitely an idea I can get behind.
And, in case it's not clear yet, the divisible by 6 thing is because we'll theoretically have 6 card creators and I don't think anyone wants to be shortchanged. :p

Edit: Shoot, that's actually only 20 cards, though, so we'd either have to lose 2 cards or add 4. The figures don't need to be divisible by 6 - the cards do.
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I think you are more looking at
X-Men 5
Avengers 5
DC 5
2 Squads with one Indy added in.
The toughest thing would be balancing the 2 v 3 of each booster, but not that difficult, IMO.
 
I don't think we'll want to do an Indy booster per wave. Heck, actually, what about something GreyOwl suggested earlier? An Indy figure per wave? Since we'd have boosters of 5 heroes, 5 heroes, and 6 heroes, the sixth hero in the one booster could be an Indy figure. What do you think?
 
Balancing heroes and villains becomes less important the more figures we have out, IMO. Though it's still something to be aware of.
 
I don't think anyone here would have a problem with handling squads in group fashion. Maybe even allowing our Sidekicks a shot at squads could be fun.
 
True, true ... so 20 cards per wave? You'd be OK with that?
As long as they're mixed up waves, I see no reason not to be ...
6 unique heroes
6 unique heroes
6 unique heroes
2 squads
Those would be our boosters ...
If we did it that way, we'd probably want an Indy only booster, but we could probably wait a wave or two before getting to that. I wouldn't want to see an Indy booster every wave, honestly.
 
Oh, the other thing with that is that we'd be trading off between two DC squads and two Marvel squads every wave. With the occasional Indy squad peppered in.
I honestly think that squads ideas will run out so much faster than hero ideas, though, that this is a good approach.
 
Thats what I meant with " one Indy added in". Also, I think any of these ideas would work.

previous set Wave 1

Wave 2
2 X-Men + one squad
2 Avengers + one squad
6 Masters of Evil
6 DC

Wave 3
3 X-Men, 3 Enemies
2 Avengers, 4 Wrecking Crew
6 DC
2 Squads of DC specific characters
, etc.

These are just a "for instance" the point being that Rechets, Marcu, and Iskra came together. Nothing says Heroes have to come with only Heroes in a Booster.
 
Yeah, we'd have a lot of flexibility for sure. Only unique squads would work packaged together with unique heroes, though.
 
In my opinion, we should do:

X-Men Master Set
Wave 1 (6 Avengers / 6 JLA / 6 Indy Hellboy / 2 Squads)
Wave 2 (6 X-Men / 6 JLA / 6 ??? / 2 Squads)
Gotham City Master Set
 
I agree with all of that except the last line. I think we can incorporate these into the DC boosters of waves. If we do decide to do a Gotham Master Set, I think it should be after at least 4 waves maybe more.
 
In my opinion, we should do:

X-Men Master Set
Wave 1 (6 Avengers/6 Brave and the Bold/6 X-Men/2 DC squads)
Wave 2 (6 JLA/6 JSA/6 X-Men/2 Marvel squads)
Wave 3 (6 Avengers/6 JLA/6 Indie comics/2 Indie squads (Aliens))
Gotham City Master Set

The Brave and the Bold figures wouldn't necessarily be JLA related.
Either way, the point is, this would allow us to decide what we wanted to see on a booster by booster basis with 6 heroes and 2 squads being the most common booster types.
 
I agree with you, Spidey, only three waves is actually probably too low.
I think that we want to get out a lot of waves before another master set, and only have an Indy booster about once every three waves.
 
Spidey'tilIDie said:
I agree with all of that except the last line. I think we can incorporate these into the DC boosters of waves. If we do decide to do a Gotham Master Set, I think it should be after at least 4 waves maybe more.
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I think a Gotham City Master set is completely necessary. Can you imagine the fun!? Oracle glyph, Bat Signal Glyph, Riddler Glyph...the possibilities are endless. :twisted:
 
Don't get me wrong, a Gotham City Master set, and hopefully as the next Master set is absolutely essential, IMO. However, it's a matter of how long we can/want to wait before doing another Master set. It might be nice to scale back and put our full emphasis on figures for a few waves.
 
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