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Cheap, but effective 500 point armies
Budget Competitive Armies
Aside from points, number of starting hexes, order marker effectiveness, and synergy, some of us face very practical constraints when determining how to go about making a tournament-ready* army. I’m not talking about time- if you’re reading this thread, you’ve probably got plenty. What I’m talking about is money. (I’ll also be assuming a 500 point/24 hex format.) Many players don’t own every expansion, or 5 of every common in the game. Now this might limit their choices a bit, but it doesn’t completely preclude them from making a decent army or two. I’ll divide this into multiple sections that mimic how a typical player’s collection is likely to grow. I’m still pretty new to the game myself, so hopefully this is fairly accurate. I’ll also color-code the armies based on some classifications I made in another article. The short version is that the redder a unit’s name is, the more order markers you should place on it. I. I just got my Master Set and I’m ready to rock! The Best of RotV Krav Maga Agents 100 Raelin the Kyrie Warrior 180 Izumi Samurai 240 Marro Warriors 290 Airborne Elite 400 Syvarris or Agent Carr 500 (12 starting hexes [16 after the AE drop]) This is a fairly decent army. It won’t win any tournaments, but you might do alright. Swarm of the Marro! Tor-Kul-Na 220 2x Marrden Nagrubs 280 2x Marro Drudge 380 2x Marro Stingers 500 (20 hexes) The inclusion of double commons and a decent 500 point army in SotM was probably intentional. Could work great if you see any swamp maps! II. I can’t find Swarm of the Marro yet anywhere, but Wave 5 and 6 are everywhere! I won’t get seconds on any common yet, but I did snag Raknar’s Vision. At this stage, you want to stick to very powerful uniques with the occasional squad of Deathreavers thrown in. They're just about the only common that I can recommend getting just one squad of with a clear conscience. Semi-offensive hodgepodge Major Q9 180 Krav Maga Agents 280 Nakita Agents 400 Kozuke Samurai 500 (11) Rÿchean Knockoff (his 2nd place Gencon army didn’t have Raelin, but it did have 3x rats) Kaemon Awa 120 Raelin 200 Airborne Elite 310 Krav Maga Agents 410 Marro Warriors 460 1x Deathreavers 500 (13/17) Listen to your friend Nilfheim, he’s a cool dude! Nilfheim 185 Airborne Elite 295 Raelin 375 Kaemon Awa 495 (4/8) Killer Queen, Dynamite, and a Laser Beam! (An excellent idea put forth by SoulfulKillingMachine) Braxas 210 Airborne Elite 320 Major Q9 500 (4/8) III. Okay, I’ve tracked down most of the other unique packs out there. Now what? a. To be honest, not that much changes! Wave 6 (Kaemon Awa), Raknar’s Vision, and the original master set have some of the most powerful stand-alone Unique units out there. Most of the other unique heroes are more useful with their respective common squads. You might give the Tagawa Samurai or the Vampires a whirl, but that’s about it. b. Okay, I lied about the other Uniques thing. I did go over to TRU and grab 1 SotM and an extra pack of Deathreavers. Rÿchean-inspired use of the New Drake and more Sgt. Drake Alexander (SotM) 170 Major Q10 320 Major Q9 or Kaemon Awa and Shiori 500 Mattser's "Let's make Sonlen awesome" army Sonlen 160 Major Q9 340 Raelin 420 2x Deathreavers 500 IV. I bought doubles of some of my favorite common squads... Okay, now comes the fun part! (This is about where I am in my own collection.) Here are just a few of the possibilities: A slightly incomplete Arrow Grut army Krug 120 Mimring 270 2x Arrow Gruts 350 2x Swog Rider 400 Raelin 480 Marcu Esenwein 500 (16) Basic Valiant Alastair 110 Finn 190 Eldgrim 220 2x 4th. Massachusetts line 360 2x Knights of Weston 500 (19) Funrun’s Gencon offering Nilfheim 185 2x Deathreavers 265 Raelin 345 Krav Maga Agents 445 Marro Warriors 495 (17) Matrix Renegade’s double bonding Krug 120 Me-Burq-Sa 170 Marcus Decimus Gallus 270 2x Arrow Gruts 350 2x Swog Rider 400 2x Roman Legion 500 (23) UPC plus AE Marcus Decimus Gallus 100 2x Roman Legion 200 Me-Burq-Sa 250 2x 4th. Massachusetts Line 390 Airborne Elite 500 (19/23) V. So I was in TRU yesterday, and those flagbearers looked so shiny! Note that neither of these first two armies (which both appeared in the top 8 of the championship at Gencon) require multiples of any commons. MattserTruckRally’s Gencon tournament winner Laglor 110 Raelin 190 Major Q9 370 Krav Maga Agents 470 Isamu 480 Marcu Esenwein 500 (9) Skyknight’s army Laglor 110 Major Q9 290 Braxas 500 (5) Basic Valiant Variant Sir Gilbert 105 Alastair 215 2x Knights of Weston 355 2x 4th. Massachusetts Line 495 (18) VI. “One, two, five! -Three sir! -Right, three!” Unless you’re doing something really weird, like clogging the map with Blade Gruts, Marro Drones, or Deathreavers, 3 of any given common is probably more than enough to make almost any 500 point army you want. *These armies take a lot as a given. This includes the standard format and meta-game present at most tournaments today, as well as an understanding that the author hasn’t played in that many tournaments yet himself. I’m certainly looking forward to NHSD though! If I'm horribly wrong, or you don't like being misrepresented in some way, let me know. If you have other 'cheap' armies to add, let's hear them. Edit 11/15: Funnily enough, at my first tournament, I decided to try out 6x 4th Massachusetts line + Airborne Elite! I went 4-2 (~11th out of 60), and I had to run out and buy some/borrow some from cool people. I lost to a better played Valiant army that had 4x Mass, 2x Knights and Gilbert (3rd place finisher), and a Q9+ Krug and gruts/swog army (6th place finisher). spider_poison's winning army that went 6-0 for the day was this: 4x Marro Stingers 240 Raelin 320 Kaemon Awa 440 2x Deathreavers 520 Isamu 530 (23 hexes) Which isn't a terribly expensive army at all, especially when you consider that I let him borrow two of my stinger squads! |
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This is very interesting. All you really need is anyone of the master sets and you can make a few tournament ready army, after that I suggest hero packs and a few unique packs. With Sotm you can use the great Stingers guys with 2 of them which is what I've been doing.
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I'd like to mention this army here - it requires a RotV master set, Raknar's Vision and Heroes of Durgeth (only for Eldgrim, he can be replaced)
Major Q9 - 180 Krav Maga Agents - 100 Raelin - 80 Airborne Elite - 110 Eldgrim - 30 Total = 500 This hodgepodge of uniques makes the most out of Raelin by combining her with Q9 and the Krav, and then the Airborne Elite fly in to throw the opponent into disarray. Eldgrim is there solely to grab a glyph and then die, giving the Major or the Krav one extra move. He can be replaced with any other filler unit. This army has proven to be ridiculously strong for me, (probably because it includes 4 of the 5 banned units for Canton's Nat Heroscape Day tourney!) because it has a lot of range, power and order marker placement is easy (once Raelin is positioned and Eldgrim is on a glyph, its all Krav / Q9 until the AE drop). Like battle reports? Click Tourney Reports Like maps? Click KC's Maps Like Final Fantasy? Click KC's Final Fantasy Customs Clerks is a really awesome movie. |
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Great read, Jexik! Your advice continues to be useful, especially as I'm somewhere around II
The Daily Pugle Albuquerque, NM-NHSD Tourney 2008 Results: TexMex: 2nd Place Mrs. TexMex: 8th Place--Out of 10 PS I lost every battle in my first tourney |
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Sweet post.
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I'm sure this is in some other thread somewhere, but what's the significance of the colors? Unit class?
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Shouldn't a 2/3 SoTM master set army be in here? Kind of like this:
Jormi_Boced's Gencon Army (4th place winner) Marro Hive Marro Stingersx5 Guilty McCreech Isamu If you can't get that many SoTM (3) try this... Marro Hive Marro Stingersx3 Crypien Esenwein Isamu |
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To really do well, you need more support, but that can be hard to do without getting flagbearers or multiple commons. The cheapest way to an effective tournament army is to base it around a few effective Menacers: units that are strong both offensively and defensively, but don't require many duplicates to be effective. Quote:
For the sake of the idea behind the article, I didn't include any armies that require more than one master set. |
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More ideas into the bucket: Q9 Sonlen Raelin (Old) Roboratsx2 (Suggested by MattserTruckRally in the "Competetive Armies with Sonlen" thread. That's fairly inexpensive. 2 common packs, both MS, and one large hero. I don't think that costs too much for the purposes of this article, and it's a pretty good army. As MattserTruckRally said, "Basically, you have Sonlen with two of the best healing targets in the game". |
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I took your suggestions into account Bloody, and I added another army I remember seeing when people asked about how to use the new Drake. I believe it actually had Kaemon Awa and Izumi Samurai, but I included Shiori mostly for flavor.
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Re: Cheap, but effective 500 point armies
Stuck on Part 2. Dumb Budget
Jesus Rocks
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